SECRET OF MANA!

WHOO!! HOO!!

AWESOME UPDATE!

I can't stomach the $15 price tag for WoG just yet. I'm going to need an extremely positive review and a few slow weeks in order to amp up my desire. Secret of Mana, however, needs no such salesmanship!

This is probably the greatest update ever!!!!

yes world of goo i've been waiting a long time..........now its mine wahahahahahahahaha

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cant wait 2 go home n download this

One phrase comes to mind and that is. Wallet am cry. 1500+600+800(Secret of Mana)=2900

What a brilliant week...off to VC-reviews to say something similar...

Though technically I can't buy any of those due to having a PAL Wii...or can i?

YEAH! I'm glad I have more than enough Wii Points! Only thing is, I need room!!!!

I'm definitely gonna get both and I still wanna get Orbient. Something's gonna have to go but what?!

If someone finds out how many blocks both are, please post.

At least Nintendo is serving joy to one region. (still with Friday grudge)

World Of Goo is probably one of the best games this year, if not the best (but that's just my personal opinion)

Stop the presses Cubello probably isn't coloris...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13200657&postcount=25953
Or if it is it Coloriscube (like Tetrisphere is Tetris but isn't).

Edit: The press releases mentions something about shooting cubes...coloris didn't allow you to shoot colours; only change the ones that were there...

So much for lowering my Wii Point spending...

@ Starwolf_UK
If it's not Coloris, than what is it?

It is something new which has the following known similarity:
-Arrangements of the same colour will vanish (that describes pretty much any puzzle game)
coloris required three of the same colour, this uses four. Coloris had no rotation in it or shooting blocks...

Edit: I'll just take the bit of the press release:
Art Style: CUBELLO (Nintendo, 1 player, Rated E for Everyone, 600 Wii Points): Art Style: CUBELLO mixes the strategy and feel of a traditional puzzle game with the precision and reflexes required in a shooter. As each stage begins, various colored cubes form into one large object called a Cubello, which floats and rotates as you play. Launch additional cubes from your magazine and try to connect four or more of the same color, removing them from the Cubello and eventually leaving only its core. Take on the challenge of either Stage or Endless mode and watch what happens when Bonus Time is activated. The straightforward controls and goal ensure that anyone can play, while offering enough depth that even advanced players will find themselves quickly addicted to the unique world of Art Style: CUBELLO.
Reading it again it sounds like the cloest we'll get to Tetrisphere for a while...

Aw sweet, Secret of Mana!!!

Just great, we europeans have to wai till 2009 and buy the retail version of it.

World of Goo, I can't wait to play with you when I get back home from work. =)

Woah!! What an awesome week! Secret of Mana and World of Goo! Both are instant downloads, especially since my Secret of Mana cartridge has been acting up recently

yea awesome

America got his second Art Style game and Europe did not even get the first one =(.

And another sad thing here in Europe: We will get 'World of Goo' not before February 2009 and have to pay 40€ (~55$) for it, because it won't be released on WiiWare. Hopefully there will be enough extras to justify the much higher price.

But beside this, the WiiWare and Virtual Console updates are really great, especially 'World of Goo' and 'Secret of Mana'^^.

This is so freakin' unfair. The US gets 3 awesome WiiWare games in 2 weeks and we got 2 crap games in 2 weeks. They better give us those games too, or else...

As was said in Friday's topic, there is nothing stopping people getting the PC version of World of goo through steam or 2DBoy's website.

Unless co-op is the be all and end all in which case you'll have to look at different methods of getting the WiiWare version or just wait it out

Apocalypse although I see four great games (counting Orbient), they still can't give us all the games next fortnight since the PAL version of World of Goo is going to be retail (just like ness points out).

Don't worry that the rest will come out in two months. Hip Hip for NoE!!!! HOOOREEY !

hey i was wandering why this update is not showing up in my shop channel?enyone having that problem?

They don't show up until 9AM PST so thats about 2 or 3 hours...

Huge week. If Cubello isn't Coloris as we had previously thought, I'm a little iffy about it (will have to wait to see what it is). But with my #1 fave SNES game ever and what people acclaim as the best WW game on the same day, I am one happy camper.

I could imagine, Jogurt!

Rub it in, just rub it in... Stupid people making World Of Goo retail...

Got 1400 points... buying a points card as soon as EB Games is open. What a w00tage week.

thnx starwolf feel silly for not knowing that lol

When does the new wiiware and vc games get released on the east coast of the us?

"As was said in Friday's topic, there is nothing stopping people getting the PC version of World of goo through steam or 2DBoy's website."

Yeah, but i want to play it on my couch and not in front of my computer monitor^^.

im really looking forward to playing secret of mana again..alot of fine memories playing that game.especially when you got 3 ppl playing it.

@30. ATRUEZELDAFAN: 12 PM Eastern/9 AM Pacific

@ Versus22 Thanks!

That sux though cuz i gotta go to classes at 12: 20 which means not much time to play WoG.

Wow! Secret of Mana and World of Goo all in the same day. How sweet!

What a nice update!, but with the dollar fluctuating I'm not getting any wiipoints for awhile , still I can't wait for both reviews, I just like the way you write them.

SWEET!! A great week all around.

I don't get you people complaining about the fifteen-dollar price tag for World of Goo. PC gamers have to shell out five bucks more. So quit yer whining!

Yeah, but i want to play it on my couch and not in front of my computer monitor^^.
Different methods it is then. I'm not sure if I can describe it since despite saying it in the past when I said it in Friday's post my comment vanished.

I never complain about the pricetag of a video game. If you think a game is worth the money then buy it, if you dont think its worth the money then dont.

why isnt there eny pics of Cubello

I want World of Goo so bad but I'm out of money =(

why isnt there eny pics of Cubello

Because Nintendo isn't creating any, just like they did with Orbient. They're falling down on the job. We'll try to get our hands on a few later today.

lol not a bad idia keeps ya interested eh?

For people in the US, Toys R Us has 40% off wii points in store (soldout online) for today only 10/13.

I'd like to know what makes World of Goo so great. It looks like a "Lemmings" type of game. or "Pikmin" I liked them.

yeah with a tim burton look to it lol

why isnt there eny pics of Cubello
These pics are very tiny but its all we got:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13200657&postcount=25953

Woo! Great update!

But still there is one game i have to rant about:
WHERE IS MABOSHI IN THE US?!?!?

wow thnx starwolf.. it looks different than what i thought but it looks like it could be fun ..hard to tell though

...ohmigod. Fantastico week~! I will definately get World of Goo this week and probably Secret of Mana too! And another Art Style?! And another SFII, but hey some people like those. Anyway, 4 good or great games!!

yeah i like the pace the vc games are going...it was slow a while back

IGN gave World of Goo a 9.5 out of 10!

Thanks for those Starworld_UK. Much appreciated. BTW, the World of Goo review will be up later today. I've already spent all week playing the PC version and they're basically identical other than being able to control with the Wii Remote (which is even better).

Im definitely getting World of Goo. Cubello looks cool (mostly endles mode) and original. But i also want the other one. Which should i get, i guess ill wait for a video.

nintendo channel has updates now...

For people unsure about the $15 price tag for World of Goo:

World of Goo is well worth $15 because it's one of the most unique and fresh games I've seen in quite a while. The fact that it's made by two guys aside; this game looks fantastic, even stacks up to some $50 retail Wii games. It looks like an amazing experience unlike anything on WiiWare, and for that alone it's worth the money. People complain that WiiWare is full of crap, but then when amazing stuff like this comes out they don't like it because it's "5 dollars too much"? Come on. Don't buy a crappy falling blocks game on WiiWare for $10, and some NES game for $5. Get World of Goo instead, I can assure you that, unless you absolutely despise puzzle games, you won't be disappointed.

I'm not buying it right now because, like I said, I don't have the money. If I did I'd be already downloading it.

Sweet-ness! An awesome week all around! I wasn't interested in World of Goo before, but after reading IGN's rave review, and all the other praise it's gotten, I gotta get my hands on it! Getting everything this week except for Street Fighter II!

So Europe, how's Potpurri and Midnight Bowling? (sorry I had to say it.)

WHERE IS MABOSHI IN THE US?!?!?

Its all part the plan. Being that MaBoShi comes from Nintendo and being that the Art Style games come from Nintendo and being that the Art Style games are already taking up TWO of the Four weeks in October, Nintendo doesnt want to be a WiiWare hog, or something like that.

Id expect MaBoShi in November if they havent announced anymore Art Style games.

I can't get over how awesome today is! I want all of the games released on wiiware and virtual console today but for now I'll concentrate on Goo. I'm gonna play right now!!!

Anyone ever downloaded a game after using AnyRegion Changer? I want to do this for world of goo in Europe but need to know if it will not brick my wii and what the process is.

Thanks!

I got both World of Goo and Cubello

World of Goo is amazing and I highly recommend it, although it gets hard fast.

Cubello is a great game, its a very unique puzzler like WOG, its hard to explain I still haven't passed level 3.
(I'm glad my B-day is in October)

This'll probably get deleted but...
Anyone ever downloaded a game after using AnyRegion Changer? I want to do this for world of goo in Europe but need to know if it will not brick my wii and what the process is.
Downloading is the easy part and should work without a hitch. Running is the hard part. You'll need firmware 3.2 (but since you're using AnyReiogn Changer you have that). Get channels to be region free (either using starfall for a pernament patch or Menu loader for a temporary solution*). Hope that works.

If it doesn't there are two options:
-Make the Wii a US Wii using AnyRegion changer
-Dump the internal memory hack the app then reinstal it

For personal reasons I'm not going to do anything until Thursday but I hope that helps.

*-Temporary as in lost after power-down.

Oh I'm not doing anything until someone else has done it first Is what you are saying all theoretical or did someone already do this? And, if you have that capability, it would be nice if you could videotape all the steps as I'm sure it would be helpful to alot of people.

One thing that does scare me though is that it's pretty easy for nintendo to see that you have games from multiple regions.. (with a simple db query) - Then again, nintendo are the last to act fast on something..

Also, what happens with the download history? Will my european history get erased? Will I have a combined history or two separate histories per region? I obviously don't want to loose the rights to my already downloaded games.

Wait, whoa! World of Goo is out already?! Dang it, I'm out of points! Gah, and that Cubello looks pretty sweet, too. As soon as I get points both these games are mine!

My set up was the following. Firmware 3.2.

I downloaded the Fujifilm channel. Without starfall it appears on the Wii menu but running it comes up with "this channel cannot be used".
I then patched for region free channles using Starfall (or you could just run the menuloader app). The channel booted.

Now had it been Star Soldier R (don't ask why you'ld want a Japanese or American Star Soldier R) the game won't work for some reason (Hudson games, Family Table Tennis and a few Japan only games only work on the regions they should).

As for games from multiple regions. As far as I know when you send a Wii for repair they use thier diagnostic disc to get your Wii sohp account data. This is then transfered to a brand new Wii. The worst that would come from an inspection is the repair fee being "misuse/abuse" (the more expensive one) regardless of if you have a warrnety (using homebrew voids it).

Download history shows everything (the Fujifilm channel comes up in its Japanese name) but channels you have download only show channels from that region (so in Japan only the Fujifilm one shows up while in Europe everything but Fujifilm shows up)

Cubello sure is a bit different. If the Art Style series is going to continue like this I'm definitely looking forward to more. Simple, challenging, addictive, fun.

What's Cubello about? Think of a swirling mass of differently colored cubes from which you have to rid all cubes from the core. You have to connect at least four cubes to get rid of them, by adding more cubes to the bulk. You only have a limited supply of cubes to add, which will only be resupplied by clearing cubes from the mass.

One of the challenges lies in the fact that you only have indirect control over the mass's rotation. Whereever you shoot a cube that's where the mass will turn. At the same time, you can't wait forever because the longer you wait before your next shot the closer the swirling mass moves towards you. If it gets close enough it's game over. The other way you can fail is by running out of cubes to shoot.

There are bonus times, which are more or less triggered randomly, but you do have a way to increase your chance. When you clear four cubes a "slot machine" will go off in the upper right corner, and when all four symbols match you go into bonus time; clear more than four cubes and an additional slot appears - you still only have to match four. Once you go into bonus time you get unlimited ammo for a specified color for a limited time.

There are no real high scores, but it does keep track of how many turns and how much time it took you to complete a stage.

Highly recommendable to puzzle fans.

Oh, and World of Goo is terrific! The hype was justified.

Thanks for the info starwolf, now all we need to know is if Goo can be made region free successfully. (Although a youtube video of the process wouldn't be bad either )

Oh one other question, do wii points bought in one region also work in other regions?

Well the World of Goo review has gone gold. Once the editors get a chance to go over the review it should be up a little later. Enjoy!

Btw which settings do you change exactly in anyregion changer? All of them to US?

best update so far Secret of Mana is a great rpg almost as good as chrono trigger

Oh one other question, do wii points bought in one region also work in other regions?
For now, yes. I say for now since going to/from Australia and New Zealand wipes your Wii point balance. It is unlikely Nintendo will impliment for other countries but there is a possibility.

Btw, I downloaded anyregion changer and starfall and they only have a .dol inside. No .elf, is that not needed for the homebrew channel to work?
Homebrew channel can boot dol files.

And which settings do you change exactly in anyregion changer? All of them to US?
To access the Wii shop you only need to change the country (the one that is numbers). So for you that should be from 78 to 49. That is the only option you should touch.

You lucky sods, America.

We've got to wait until the retail release of WoG and we can only hope that we get the Art Style series. Is this just Nintendo rubbing salt in the wounds (remember Black Friday?), and if so - WHY MUST YOU DO THIS NINTY?!?!?
Still, at least we still get DISASTER Day Of Crisis before you yanks.

Ok starwolf, I'm downloading it now, will let you all know if it works

Wohoo World of goo is out. I love physic based games, the downside is i only have 200 wii points to work with lol.

Downloading now.

Hey it's x.SuperMario...errrr AlexSays. Changing avatars is no longer the thing to do. So now we're changing names. Can I be Buford? (I'm kidding Daz - don't change it!)

BTW: Has anyone listened to World of Goo through a Dolby Surround Sound system yet? Yikes. It's knocking down my walls. I'm sure the neighbors are enjoying it.

I changed my name AND my avatar. How cool is that?
But I really hated SuperMario. So I'm happy WWW was kind enough to let me pick a new name.
Oh, and I vote for Corbie's new name to be Buford.

Wait, doesn't Corbie have a review he needs to be writing?

Nice 2 meet the new you, SUperAlexSaysMArio

Still, at least we still get DISASTER Day Of Crisis before you yanks.
And Fire Emblem...oh yeah, I forgot. Nobody cares about Fire Emblem except me and 5 other people

Interesting... Another Art Style game so soon... Nintendo's October WiiWare release, too. Which means in 2-3 weeks we'll probably be seeing Rotohex for Nintendo's November game... Art Style games are great and all, but could it be they're delaying other Nintendo WiiWare?

Great week. Something for everyone, something good for everyone, at that. Now to find out how many blocks and levels World of Goo is...

Works perfectly fine on my euro wii, yay

Instructions here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13205475#post13205475

@Peznaze.
World of goo is a biggie at 321 blocks.

For the Europeans wondering with homebrew, some folkes at Neogaf also tried and got world of goo to work:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338730
I echo their statement about not doing it for every game since most games will eventually come out.

Edit: I should type faster wesleyh, you wouldn't happen to be later by any chance?

world of goo
1 word:
FINALLY!!!!!!!

@82. Peznaze - Remember that Nintendo said last month that 2 more Art Style games will be released during the month of October.

We still have one more Art Style game this month!

@Alxsays/x.supermario.x. I like the new name better.

Soooo, is name-changing the new fad here? I'm thinking about changing mine too. I didn't realize how stupid a name Mr. Cheez was until I've posted with it for a while.

But then again, that probably means I'd have to change my VC-Forums account too.

Edit: @Starwolf_UK. 321 BLOCKS!? I think I'm gonna wait on this one then...
And Corbie, you should totally change your name to Buford.

Two really great releases. World of Goo is up to its hype and Cubello is so much fun...

Wow, World of Goo is epic.
If the developers read this, you guys did an AMAZING job.
This has to be one of the best games I've ever played. If every WiiWare game was half as good as this one, the service would be a LOT better than it already is.

If this game scores anything less than a 10, I'll be surprised.
I've read WWW's scoring policy, and I think this game is as close to perfection as a WiiWare game could possibly get.

Woot! I can't afford world of goo yet =/.. I might even have to wait for Christmas for a game like that when I'm flooded with 3-4 wii points cards.. But Cubello looks amazing too, and pretty cheap =D.. I'll have to pick it up sometime.. also.. is it bad that I've never heard of Secret of Mana before? (I wasn't much of a video gamer when I was younger.. only played the N64 when it came out..)

Yes starwolf, that's me Thanks so much for your help

Secret of Mana is still one of the greatest action-rpgs ever made. If you haven't experienced it yet, get it when you can.

@AlexSays
Dang.. you make me want to buy this game really soon.. >_>
I'm going to have to fork up some money though.. And I'm running low >_<.. To many games are coming out! and Christmas is so far away!!

EDIT:
@Corbie
I'll have to give it a try sometime. I'll add it to a list of games I still need to download sometime

The only thing that isn't perfect about this game is that it's unclear if there will be downloadable content packs and how that will work.

Forget the content packs...bring on the sequel!

Damn, nice!!

So, that frog is called Fisty?

Finally! I aways liked Fisty even before I knew his name! * hugs Fisty *

So what are people thinking of Cubello?

Alright! Gonna go and download this game now and try it out in a few mins... been waitin for this game and its gonna be cool!

The Japanese today got:

• Darts Wii (500 Wii Points) - Not bad price if you want a virtual dart game.
• Tetris Party (1200 Points) - Those lucky guys. Hopefully it will get released in the US/EU soon.
• Some Wii game that uses Mii's and looks like a Brain Training game.

World of Goo looks promising but I'll save my Wii points for now.

Yeah, World of Goo got a 10 =).

Good news. PC demo tomorrow:
http://2dboy.com/forum/index.php?topic=340.0

@RadioShadow: Tetris Party?? I'm in severe envy mode right now. First, they get Alien Crush, then you guys get WoG, then this?!?!? I think I'm about to cry...

RE: Name changing: Just so you know guys (Corbie), I've always considered my name (WiiloveitOnline) to be a bit too long. Did anyone take Wiiloveit before me in the first place (hint hint hint hint)?

Hey all- I'm a Wii owner in Ireland and I followed the instructions on the neogaf thread mentioned above, in order to download World of Goo. It all works, and it's a brilliant game
However- I also downloaded secret of mana, it being one of my favourite games of all time- but it doesn't work. It just boots to a black screen, no sound, and the wii remote unsyncs. Anyone have an idea what the problem is, and how to resolve it?

It's quite possible that you wasted money on that one as there are certain games where the trick region free trick just doesn't work. I don't know for certain if that is the cause though.

Yeah, it could well be wasted alright. I can live with losing 8 euro I suppose. Just wondering if there's something else I can enable in AnyRegion or Starfall that could help. Or maybe it's only most wiiware that can be played using these hacks, rather than VC games. Don't know enough about it to be certain.

Yeah we really need a list of games that don't work, i added your game to the thread at neogaf.

@mcullinane: All US/JP SNES Channels run in NTSC. Now unless your Wii is set to run in NTSC mode (it can be changed using AnyRegion changer), it won't display (even if your TV supports NTSC).

This can be fixed by dumping the Channel, change the TV settings in the Channel to run in PAL60, and that will solve the problem. If you need more information, send me a e-mail to: commandershadow@hotmail.co.uk

RadioShadow, then why does world of goo work just fine? mcullinane, please let me know if you get it to work this way. Hopefully.

@mcullinane. Do you have the video settings set to 60Hz? That is all I can think of. I can imagine the executable being 60Hz or don't boot since the emulator won't work...

I can understand PAL60 not working on NTSC machines (PAL60 is similar to NTSC but still using PAL colours), but NTSC does work...

At least my import Wii games play in Red only through my RGB cable* because they output in NTSC rather than PAL60. You see NTSC signal treats the RGB cable as an S-video cable...and the RGB cable isn't fully wired, the PINout for Red thankfully is the same for both S-video and RGB...the solution for full colour is an S-video or composite cable...
*-UInless they support being forced to boot in PAL60.

I'm gonna get in touch with Radioshadow to see if his solution works. But it's definetly not an issue with the game just failing to display on my screen (I'm using component cables). Also tried RGB+composite. The fact that there's no sound and the remote unsyncs itself means that the game is failing to boot at all, which leads me to believe that Radio is on the right track. Well i'll let you know how I get on! Cheers again guys.

@Starwolf_UK: It doesn't matter if your Wii is set to 60Hz or 50Hz, when you boot a SNES Channel, it forces the Wii to use the TV Settings inside the channel.

By default, US/JP SNES Channels are set to run in NTSC mode. A PAL Wii is set to run games in PAL. Loading a US/JP SNES Wad will just tell the Wii to load in NTSC and because the PAL Wii is set to run in PAL, it won't display anything (even if your TV supports NTSC).

If you set your PAL Wii to NTSC using AnyRegionChanger, the SNES Channel will load correctly (providing your TV has NTSC support).

@wesleyh: A lot of Wii/WiiWare games contains the necessary TV settings to run in NTSC, PAL60 or PAL50, depending on your Wii's settings.

The Wii instead of being forced to use a TV setting like the SNES Channels, uses the necessary ones. World of Goo basically has been set to work in NTSC and PAL Mode.

@RadioShadow: I'd rather not have to set my PAL Wii to NTSC mode every time i want to run the SNES channel- tbh I'm worried about bricking the wii- would changing this specific channel's tv setting to pal60 be a relatively easy process?

would changing this specific channel's tv setting to pal60 be a relatively easy process?
You have to dump the Wiis memory, edit that application and then re-instal it. The first step is time consuming (takes about an hour), the rest are easy if you have the right know-how. The problem is the instal file can be used on any Wii which is why i'm not going to say more than that here.

Personally, you've bought the thing you've got the moral high ground. You're clearly using thwe homebrew channel just get an emulator and ROM. A bit of a let down in the end but feel happy you bought it and thats what matters.

What's all this mumbo-jumbo talk of AnyRegion changer? Is it legal?

@PALgamer. Its homebrew meaning it is unsigned code meaning it'll void your warrenty.

It allows you to make parts of or the entrie Wii into any other region. For instance we were changing which Wii shop to connect to. We are still buying the goods with Wii Points so I don't see any legal problems there only stupid bureaucratic "bu..bu.but its not PEGI rated".

Of course to use the bought goods we need to patch the Wii menu so they will run or if that doesn't work (like it seems for VC games ) change the region completely or hack the app.

Cubello is awesome! I definitely recommend it if you're into puzzlers. The controls are simple but the game can get very challenging. It's a lot of fun!

awesome week we have for both WiiWare and Virtual Console.